#don’t get me wrong#I’m all for people having fun with characters however they wish#and viewing them however they wish#but………#just because a character is on the side of the law doesn’t automatically make them a hero#or all of their actions completely justified#except to themselves#…..also he’s LITERALLY wearing black and white???#(or a very dark grey at the least)#which to me is an indication of a black + white morality system#a system that is flawed#because humanity doesn’t work that way
preserving my tags from this post because 1) these are thoughts I’ve had for a while, and 2) a reminder for me to look back on, because I’ve wanted to write more in depth thoughts about them but kept forgetting
SCREAMS i like the black and white thing it’s very interesting and i somehow never noticed
when I finally noticed it, it was like
and my characterization of him started falling into place
His uniform is actually shades of grey ….
I can see that, and I know it’s following the costume pattern set by the Spanish in OST, but it still comes across as black + white to me, and probably to a lot of casual viewers, and given certain scenes in the movie, it’s not a stretch to assign him as having a b/w morality viewpoint
His actions weren’t justified? Let’s look at that word “justified”, shall we? Justified basically means something that is done for a legitimate reason, an act that is seen as just or right, and correct me if I’m wrong, but in the 17th century, Pirate Hunting was something that was justified and legal, it was seen as comitting justice. Salazar was not doing anything illegal or unjustly by killing pirates, he was simply doing his duty (even after death). I don’t believe he has a black and white morality, because in reality pirates WERE villains, they were literally the street (or in their case, sea) gangs of their time, and in reality, they were not loveable scallywags that these films make them out to be, but rather murderers, thieves, and rapists. So, to say Salazar has a black and white morality, and to suggest that was his flaw, is a bit simple-minded, since most law-abiding people thought the exact same way in those days: that all pirates should be erradicated.
If you want to talk about Salazar’s flaws, I think his biggest one was the fact he was blinded by his hatred for Jack.
Nah pirates were already symbols of freedom and rebellion and were part of people’s daily life. « Oh damn uncle Joseph turned into piracy because he didnt earn enough at his shop. » It happened. You obvisouly didnt want to meet one, but for the people who were pressuring by taxes and by church, thinking of free spirits who stole gold for a living was wild, fascinating. But all that is irrelevant since we’re talking about a fictionnal movie where the deads can talk and rip your head off if you ask me lol
The thing about his black and white mind is that he believes killing is RIGHT because it is legal, in the context of the movie. But that’s still murder in the end and that doesnt make him better than a pirate. Mass killing never is justified or legitimate, no matter how much your background calls for it. So yeah Mando is complicated because he used the law to commit to his mass murder pulsions. And in the end even Barbossa fucked up while talking to him and thought he was a pirate because the dude violently killed so many people. Pretty ironic !
^One thought I just had, inspired by your part about killing.
With the way his job is killing is just a part of that
— an unfortunate part about that, I’d say, but still a part when you’ve got a massive ship with a shitton of cannons, people are gonna die, but
I think what, for me, makes him “evil” about that part is the fact that he clearly enjoys the killing part, enjoys it a lot!
(and I am only talking about non-cursed/pre-Triangle Salazar atm)
take this scene :
those are very similar expressions, aren’t they? which gives me the impression that a lot of flashback!salazar’s expressions are being mimicked on cursed!salazar’s face as he reminiscences
which to me means this face:
this pleased face at the thought of several
peoplepirates being shot, this kind of fucked up face (and not because of the being dead thing) would be the exact expression Salazar at that time had on his face, watching it happen live
Well… what if his calm, nearly sleeping, expression on the first shot, is nothing, but feeling of the relief? His work is done in that moment. Last pirates are dead or dying. Armando thinks, that now his mother and grandfather have peace. Their deaths were revenged… but then… you know…Sparrow.
I didn’t mean to say the top two pictures are of him looking happy about killing; I quite agree with your interpretation of those.
My main point was about the last picture, which to me is a sadistic smile, deriving pleasure from the memory of deaths he ordered, that he likely watched happen live with that same smile.
Again, just my interpretation of how that scene plays out, with evidence based on the first two pictures which are similar expressions shown right after the other in the film.
My truth – what I believe – is that there are no answers here and, if you are looking for answers, you’d better choose the question carefully.